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's lindsey graham and he is most likely going to attract a primary challenger. this is not without risk but it's significant. it's not only the senators. you have senator coburn and saying it won't be terrible to raise taxes on the rich. i think we are starting to see a shift. the key is, is it just reductions or will some be willing to raise tax rates on the wealthy? that is going to be the real sticking point and ed, you heard what congressman king said. he said, look, it all has to be on the table. then you have speaker boehner saying that he wants obama care on the table in the fiscal cliff negotiations in reality will that be on the table, obama care in. >> you know, this is a a genius move by republicans. they wanted to repeal obama care. they would have done it had mitt romney been elected and they can't do that. boehner has said repealing it entirely is a moot issue. but getting some concessions is probably the way to do it. in part because there are democrats who agree that changes should be made and even the president has said that it's not a perfect law. do the math. deduct i
lindsey graham, kelly ayotte and -- >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassad
including senator lindsey graham and congressman peter king. are we inching closer to some potential compromise. athena joan has been following the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> martin, with congress returning this weekend, not much public evidence of any real progress on a deal the avoid the fiscal cliff. folks here in washington are wondering if this week will prove a turning point for republicans and democrats. members of congress expressed optimism sunday about the prospects for reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts next year that could do serious damage to the economy. they also sounded warnings. >> we can and must get an agreement. otherwise i think first of all the markets are going to start reacting. >> it's not a done deal and not a certainty. if congress does nothing, which congress has gotten pretty good at doing these days, we'll go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: staffers have been working behind the scenes to find common ground to prevent across-the-board cuts lawmakers say should concern everyone. >> i think you shou
, not terrorists. senator lindsey graham said he'd oppose rice but now said he'd listen to her. >> when she comes over if she does, there will be lots of questions asked of her about this event and others. but i do not believe the video is the cause. >> graham says he still believes the white house intentionally misled the public about the terrorist link to the attack. >>> a big step for china's military. for the first time a fighter jet landed their only aircraft carrier. the chinese news agency says sunday's exercise marked the china bought it from the ukraine in 1998 and spent years refurbishing it but it's not expected to be ready for combat for some time. >>> one of the great political mysteries of the middle east gets a step closer to being solved. what killed palestinian leader yasser arafat? he died in 2004 after suddenly falling ill. some believe he was poisoned by the same radioactive substance that killed a former russian spy in 2006. allen pizzey reports. >> reporter: for many palestinians yasser arafat is more a relic of history than part of the ongoing struggle for an independent st
it was actually a terrorist assault. after the meeting, republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham had this reaction. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> all i can tell you that the concerns i have are greater today than they were before and we're not even close to getting the basic answers. >> reporter: both senators accused rice of misleading the american public during a series of t.v. interviews five days after the assault. in a public statement today, rice explained that her initial account was wrong because: senator kelly ayotte, republican of new hampshire, says rice should have known better. >> but one of her responsibilities as ambassador to the u.n. she receives daily intelligence briefings and certainly confirmed today that she had received the briefing-- the briefings leading up to this that were on a classified basis. >> reporter: the white house hasn't said when or if rice will get the nomination. but in a news conference two weeks ago, mr. obama seemed to be preparing for a fight. >> if senator john mccain an
prominent republican senators, lindsey graham and saxby chambliss are signaling they are willing to give a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because a new cnn/orc poll shows more than two thirds of americans believe a trip over that cliff would create major problems, perhaps even a crisis. cnn political editor paul steinhauser is live from washington, d.c. this morning. nice to see you, paul. so the fiscal cliff triggers back-breaking tax hikes and massive spending cuts. you've got more numbers that show what type of budget plan americans actually prefer. >> exactly. one of the big arguments, zoraida, is should it be all spending cuts to get us there or tax increases, as well? brand-new numbers just out from cnn/orc. only about one in three say whatever deal should be struck should be just spending cuts. but almost seven in ten, two thirds of americans say the plan should include spending cuts and tax increases. our poll indicates americans are not so optimistic a deal will get done and if it doesn't get done, who gets the blame? look at this right here, about 45% s
. >> reporter: another vocal critic, senator lindsey graham, is still expressing doubts about her but avoided answering whether he would still stand in the way of a rice nomination. >> when she comes over, if she does, there will be a lot of questions asked after her about this event and others. >> reporter: whether the tone is a shift in speaking or more nuanced language, the white house is all ears. >> certainly saw those comments and appreciate them as the president has said and i and others have said, ambassador rice has done an excellent job at the united nations and is highly qualified for any number of positions in the foreign policy arena. >> reporter: does the preside president -- >> i have no announcements. >> reporter: she's widely believed to be at the top of the list to replace secretary of state hillary clinton who's said she will not stay for a second term. ambassador rice came under fire for suggesting the benghazi attack that killed four americans was a spontaneous event. >> what we think transpired in benghazi is opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this
and senator lindsey graham, it looks like that meeting at least from her point of view was unsuccessful. here is what those republicans had to say after their meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. concerning evidence that is overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> clearly the impression that was given of the information given to the american people was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. >> so key republicans not convinced. but top democrats like harry reid coming to her rescue saying, and i'm quoting here, the personal attacks against ambassador rice by certain republican senators have been outrageous and utterly unmoored from facts and reality. today she's back on the hill, meeting with the head of the homeland security committee saying she's not sure they have 60 votes to confirm her if, in fact, she's nominated. lynn >>> well, jill kelley, the tampa socialite caught up in the scandal involving former cia chief david petraeus, is now going on the offense. after two weeks o
loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security and medicare. >> i don't expect the democrats to go for premium ouci do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings
. rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> she reportedly called the meeting. seems like a smart move. what do you think? >> well, i think it's a smart move for john mccain to take the meeting. they're boxed in. this is not a fight they want right now. it was a stupid fight to pick. they put themselves into a corner and now they've
. senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte say they're even more troubled now after meeting with ambassador rice. the attack on libya on september 11 killed the u.s. ambassador, cries stevens and three other americans. five days later, ambassador rice went on the sunday talk shows and said u.s. officials believed it was a spontaneous reaction to protest over an anti-islam video. not a preplanned terrorist attack. first the controversy was over whether the white house made the change in the talking points. but that's past because intelligence officials say they gave ambassador rice those talking points. today senator graham called the information disconnected from reality. >> not only is the information bad and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >> shepard: rice said while we wish we had had perfect information, just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. neither i nor anyone else in the
graham, john mccain, kelly ayotte who said we respectfully disagree with the white house statement that there are no unanswered question about ambassador rice's sunday appearance. they talk about the acting director of the c.i.a. saying that the c.i.a., the f.b.i. removes the references to al-qaeda in the talking points. to ple vent compromising and ongoing criminal investigation. they say, the senators say at 4:00 this afternoon, the c.i.a. officials contacted us and indicated that the acting director morrell misspoke in the earlier meeting and the c.i.a. says it deleted the al-qaeda reference, not the f.b.i. and unable to give us a reason why. one thing also about the al-qaeda being taken out, it was not just the five sunday shows blaminth spontaneous demonstration there wasn't, never a demonstration. susan rice said this. >> president obama said running for president he'd row focus our effort on al-qaeda. we decimateed al-qaeda. usama bin laden is gone. we decimateed al-qaeda. usama bin laden is dead. he said that al-qaeda was decimated in both interviews so that was a misleadin
position. >> another vocal critic, senator lindsey graham, is still expressing doubts about her but avoided answering whether he would stand in the way of a rice nomination. >> when she comes over, if she does, there will be a lot of questions asked of her about this event and others. >> whether this apparent new tone is a real shift in thinking prompted by political pressure or more nuance language, the white house is all ears. >> certainly saw those comments and appreciate them as the president has said and i and others have said. ambassador rice has done an excellent job at the united nations and is highly qualified for any number of positions in the foreign policy arena. >> mi have no announcements to make on personnel. >> secretary of state hillary clinton has said she will not stay for a second term. ambassador rice came under fire for suggesting that the benghazi attack that killed four americans was a spontaneous event. >> there was a hateful video that was disseminated on the internet. that sparked violence in various parts of the world, including violence directed against western
critics on capitol hill face to face. meeting with senator graham and john mccain and our own kelley wright live with more. kelley, this is an amazing development. it is my understanding that she requested the development. >> she did. they talked about since they were did that they were honored to meet with her. susan rice is the front runner for being nominated as the new secretary of state . that could be the reason why. if so she would need to be confirmed by lawmakers. republicans are outraged over the comments rice made in the u.s. consulate in benghazi. that could be problematic. >> initially it was a spontanous reaction to what transspired in carey as a consequence of the video. >> that explanation continues to dodge rice. senator mccain said rice failed to get the facts straight. >> don't we all have a responsibility before we go out and talk to the american people and all five sunday morning shows for verifying that the facts were true. there is classified information that she had access to that contradicted that. and said al-qaida was decimated along with bin laden being ki
cain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte criticized explanations rice given in the past and obviously today and on the attack in benghazi the meeting doesn't appear to help smooth away for rice's widely anticipated nomination as secretary of state. here is senator ayotte moments ago ago. >> when you have a position where your ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparations and responsibilities for that job and that is troubling to me. jenna: kelly wright, live in washington with more. kelly, the three senators just held the news briefing which we played a little bit from kelly ayotte. tell us generally what was their response? what sort of reaction they had to what they heard inside that closed-door meeting? >> reporter: let's stay on focus on that because that is really telling. each senator saw the tone being stunned by the information they heard in this closed-door meeting with u.n. ambassador susan rice. they are significantly troubled they say, more than that ever, which means there are more questions than answers as a result o
to them, somebody like south carolina lindsey graham says i would raise taxes although if i could get into one ironclad guarantee of entitlement reform, a series of things that democrats will never give them. but when "the new york times" or cbs reports that conversation or talk by lindsey graham, they see lindsey graham said i do want to raise taxes. full stop. and the rest of the conversation disappears. so the challenge and, i say this was leaked, i don't think he intended to have a public conversation but if you say things in front of 150 people -- >> and it was in an interview. >> then he meant to get it out. but by doing that than, all they did was have a conversation about other ways to raise taxes. if you are trying to figure how to rein in spending, we are sitting here talking, a handful coming in, as you say over 90% of republicans have taken the pledge. they all kept by the way. given all this talk but somebody might break the pledge. a handful of people have in your thoughts that under certain circumstances speed is what do you mean by in your thoughts because meaning they
norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but ham stringing politicians and many people lost election over there and turns out times change. peter king is also saying he's going to go against the pledge who agreed to it years and years and his reasoning that times have changed. here is the caviat . you are a republican and don't want to raise taxes and willing to compromise a bit, the democrats have to compromise with entitlement spending there. is a way here to find common ground and get away from the all or nothing pledges that the american public many of them were upset about the grid lock. >> brian: it is all symbolic. that brings 80 billion a year and would pay ian volv
graham. you are on the record saying you will not support her if she is nominated for secretary of state. but not just because of libya. what is the problem. >> let me clarify that. my first thought is what if susan rice was thrown under the bus and they all knew she didn't have the information from the cia. then i thought you would have to feel sorry for her. since yesterday talking to some of those to whom she talked i'm convinced in my mind that she is part of the coverup, she knew all the time the cia information that was given to her. but your point is very good. i could not support her in the secretary of state if she is nominated. bill: give me a reason why. >> she is on the wrong side of the membership of the u.n. palestinian authority. she is on the opposite side of where i am. she has kept on funding you necessary cowhich is in violation of instructions given to her through law. she is on the opposite side of every issue that i am. for that reason i would have opposed her anyway. bill: it appears to me and many others when we listen to folks like yourself talk that this issue i
mccain and lindsay graham, john bolton, pat buchanan, state department official, liz cheney and former secretary of state henry kissinger are all here. this is a special edition of on the record. >> four years later almost after the noble peace prize has been awarded where do we stand. in case you haven't heard, bin laden is dead but that is not a foreign policy. there is no coherent foreign policy when we need one. >> we hope something is going to change. >> one of the ramifications of obama presidency the defense is not going to grow. >> the coordinated preplanned against the consulate on september 11th is an outrage. >> it appears to many americans that this administration failed to adequately protect u.s. personnel. >> the president has been skipping his daily intelligence briefings. >> with respect to iran i want to see a diplomatic resolution to the problem. >> the president's iran policy lacks credibility. the question is whether or not is whether the defense budget is big enough to deal with the major crisis and potential challenges around the world. >> as far as the
senator lindsey graham says he may break his pledge to anti-tax lobbyist grove norquist. >> i'm willing to generate revenue. we're below historic advantages. i will not raise tax rates. i will cap deductions and long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> all the president that i have served with including reagan, clinton and the first george bush moved away from the position of no additional tax. >> they all added revenues to deficit reduction. >> without a bipartisan plan the bush-era tax cuts are expected to retire jarn 1st and spending cuts may kick in as well. they anticipate a second face- to-face meeting with president obama as soon as this week. >>> also in washington republican senator john mccain backed off from fiery criticism of un un ambassador susan rice about the attack in libya. >> i think she deserved the ability to explain herself and her position as she said, but she is not the problem. the prose problem is that the president of the united states, who in a debate with mitt romney said that he had said it was a terr
reform, serious reform on the table. republican lindsey graham is willing to put taxes on the table but wants to make sure democrats follow up with entitlements. >> let me salute lindsay graham what he said about revenue and taxes need to be said on his side of the aisle. we need to be honest on our side of the aisle. as we did under bowles-simpson put everything on the table. >> reporter: senator durbin, a top democrat in the senate says put everything on the table. though owe went on he is concerned about changes in medicare that might set off gaps in coverage, senior citizens not getting health care coverage. there you go. they're saying to put everything on the table but when you get in the details that's why they haven't come to a deal because the devil will be in the details, jenna. jenna: maybe they start with a salute and end with a handshake. ed, great to see you report great to see you. jenna: thank you very much. jon: several republican lawmakers are toning down their criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice and her handling of the deadly attack on the consulate in libya.
for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> senator lindsey graham this weekend on nbc. one of several senior republicans who say they will break ranks to reach a deal with the democrats. republican senator johnny isakson joins us this morning and has joined the norquist pledge. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i don't want to make this a conversation only about grover because that seems to be all people want to talk about. i wonder if senator graham's comments and some others if you're beginning to really sense a turning of the tide here? >> well, first of all, you got to remember we have to talk about comprehensive tax reform and talk about spending cuts and talk about debt and deficit reduction. pulling out an isolated piece like raising rates or taking a mortgage interest deduction or whatever it may be, it doesn't serve a purpose. you have to look at the entire problem. if you don't do that, we're all dead. >> where does norquist fit in? has your own view on the pledge evolved? >> i'm not for increasing tax rates. i'm for reforming the c
strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday praising prime minister benjamin netanyahu for reaching the truce. however, did you notice no mention of president obama or secretary clinton? what do you make of that? >> honestly, that statement was sad and pathetic they cannot take off the partisan blinders at a time like this. and i think what it does is it hurts their credibility going forward in the international stage. they were ones very much on susan rice's back about benghazi and the possibility of her being secretary of state. but they have showed themselves being totally incapable of displaying any objectivity. for them to be praising the muslim brotherhood and palestinians but not their own president and secretary of state who clearly and unmistakably had a big role in bringing this bombing campaign by hamas to an end. that is really not right. and the contrast frankly is what governor christie in new jersey did, president obama stepped u
include the u.s. ambassador to liberia samuel as well as the reverend billy graham. they were ministers and mrs. johnson. the president of the johnson publishing company which published ebony and jet. in addition to the official meeting press conferences and speeches before political parties, the african treated pat and the team with a whirlwind of dinners and presentations. she took the responsibility very seriously. jewelry noted in the biography of her mother that she snuck away from the family activity to go over the briefing notes and organize the thoughts for the upcoming trip. the state department and the staff of the west wing prepared marks she went over there making changes where she felt necessary and highlighting points she wanted to emphasize. in liberia, she preesed her -- pleased her host by noting how impressed she was by the considerable development that occurred since the last visit in 1957. ghana, she traveled out in to the hills of a bury, to pay her respect to 83-year-old chief who she met during a vice presidential visit. he told here is he forged a friendship betw
to reach agreement on the debt. today we heart from senator lindsey graham and peter king, congressman out of new york, also jumping on the bandwagon with that. let's listen to that. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece. and republicans should put revenue on the table. i want to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> agree entirely. a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. fy were in congress in 1941, i would have signed the declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to attack japan today. the world has changed. >> it's interesting to hear that from those two republicans today, one in the house, one in the senate. but i should mention one thing. that is, in the weeks and days immediately following the election, house speaker john boehner himself came out and said, we're willing to consider revenues as long as it's not done by raising rates. and so in s
to say about ambassador rice. >> senator graham and i and others -- had a very candid discussion with ambassador rice, and director of the cia. significantly troubled by -- [inaudible] evidence leading up to the attack on our consulate. tried to suggest -- [inaudible] and whether ambassador rice was prepared sufficiently in order to give the american people correctly the depiction -- [inaudible] it's clear the information she gave the american people was incorrect your she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by -- it was not. there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware people don't bring rocket propelled grenades to spontaneous events. [inaudible] >> bottom line, i'm more concerned now than it was before that the explanation of a how the four americans died in libya but i think does not do justice to the reality of it. at the time and in hindsight clearly was clearly wrong. so here's the key thing. in real-time, the state now is disconnected from realit
to meet with a number of member of congress. following the meeting, senator lindsay graham and john mccain spoke to others. their comments to reporters are about 10 minutes. >> we had a very candid discussion with ms. rice and the acting director c.i.a., we are troubled by some of the answers we have gotten. there was evidence leading up to the attack on the consulate and the tragic deaths of brave americans and ambassador rice was warned sufficiently. it is clear that the information given to the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration that triggered it. it was not. there were many indications that that was not the case, including statements from libyans and other americans. bottom line i'm more concerned than i was before that the explanation about how four americans tide does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was wrong. in realtime it was disconnected from reality. anybody looking at the threats, it would jump out at you that this was an al qaeda storm in the making. i'm disappointed in our intelligence community. i
of her most outspoken critics, republican senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte to set the record straight. rice had gone on five sunday talk shows days after the attack and called it a spontaneous demonstration sparked by an antimuslim film and did not mention the link to al qaeda. after all this taking on her critics, the republican senators weren't impressed. >> bottom line, i'm more dist b disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> rice maintains she did nothing wrong. issuing a statement saying we stressed that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage of this process. peter brooks is a former deputy assistant secretary of defense, general wesly clark and, of course, former democratic presidential candidate. senator mccain was asked who do you blame more at this point? ambassador rice or president obama? he says
at the attacks. today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet with six senators. if she is nominated as next secretary of state she will need six republicans to vote for her to region the magic number of 60 for confirmation. so far republicans are not convinced. >> yesterday in talking to some of those to whom she talked i'm absolutely convinced in my mind bill, she is part of the cover-up. she knew all the time the cia information that was given to her. >> reporter: senators graham, mccain and ayotte tellingers after yesterday's meeting that the information let them more disturbed and not reassured about rice's benghazi comments that which portrayed the
to the idea of higher taxes broadly. we heard over the weekend senator lindsey graham, congressman peter king, joining in --. megyn: but they're talking about closing loopholes and deductions that is what romney ran on and it has been republican position for a while. >> they just discovered it. where were they when the republican standard-bearer needed that support? there is lack of intellectual integrity surrounding this entire issue. if they had any shame in washington, d.c. they would be embarassed. >> they are political animals. they have to think what is sellable to their constituents. when the simpson-bowles debt commission got together and we have to tackle the debt and it will kill us all, they said, what if we raised the age of social security retirement one year. went to 68. did it in 30 years. not going to do it right now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the po
and lindsey graham talking behind closed doors to discuss classified material. the acting director of the cia, mike morel, is helping her answer questions and will accompany her to other meetings on the hill this week. an aide to mccain tells cbs news that rice requested this meeting last week and it could be decisive. if she answers mccain's questions to his satisfaction, he says he would support her nomination. >> margaret, what do you think those questions will be from the senators that they want answered? >> reporter: charlie, there are a lot of them. specifically senator mccain has said he wants ambassador rice to explain why she did not mention that within 24 hours of the assault in benghazi that the intelligence community knew that there were links to al qaeda. as you remember, in five different television appearances, she said there was no evidence that the attack was preplanned. now senator mccain has said she misled the public. ambassador rice says she respect s mccain but that some of his criticisms are unfounded. as cbs news has reported her uncla
graham of south carolina and then bob corker of tennessee. let's take a listen to their comments. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? -- i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> now, of course, both of those republicans are in the senates, easier to get this done in the senate than in the house. john boehner has a job once he negotiates with the president and other leaders of getting it through that chamber. i talk to a senior staff level member on the democratic side today in the senate who predicted that we're likely to see a two-stage negotiation and two-stage result. the first by the end of the year would be about a $1 trillion beginning of the $4 trillion overall package and the rest would be legislated next year. we'll see whet
to them, someone like south carolina lindsay graham said i would raise taxes a little if i could get a guarantee of entitlement reform, a series of things democrats will never give them. when the "new york times" or cbs reports that conversation or talk by lindsay graham, they said if he said i would be willing to raise taxes, the rest of the conversation disappears. so the challenge for cole -- obviously this was leaked, i don't think he intended to have a public conversation, but if you say things in front of 150 people -- >> he gave an interview. >> he meant to get it out that. then have a conversation about trying to raise taxes and we are sitting -- a handful of republicans -- as you say over 90% of the republicans kept the pledge. all this talk about someone might break the pledge. people having impure thoughts. >> impure thoughts? >> under certain circumstances -- >> what do you mean by impure thoughts? this is a family event. [laughter] >> maybe thinking about raising taxes. >> is that what republicans do? >> no. a few of them talk about it on tv. the good news is most of the
, senator lindsey graham, and ranking member john mccain spoke to reporters. u.n. ambassador rice is expected to meet with more individual lawmakers later this book. their briefing with reporters is about 10 minutes. >> we have had a very candid discussion about dr. rice and deputy director of the c.i.a. where significantly troubled by many of the answers we got and some we didn't get. evidence that it's overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate, the tragic death of the brave americans, and whether ambassador rice was informed sufficiently in order to give the american people a correct depiction of the events that took place. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. what she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hate grouple of it is not. there was clearly evidence at the time that was certainly not the case. including statements by libyans as well as other americans. people don't bring mortars and rocket propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 s
americans including ambassador chris stevens. what senator lindsey graham said after the meeting. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before, that the 16th september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think, does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> dana bash following developments on capitol hill. before susan rice went before these republicans, senators, they seemed to be backing away from criticizing her. now it looks like in speaking with them, this is backfired. can you tell us what happened? >> reporter: that's right. i was told by a source familiar with this meeting that the reason why the senators backed off public comments, softened them, they did, susan rice requested a meeting and felt that was the most appropriate thing to do not keep pounding her before they could talk face-to-face. you're absolutely right. by all accounts it did not go well inside that meeting held in a classified setting, i should tell you, with the acting director of the cia. listen to what j
graham -- if the democrats gave us significant 10 to 1 entitlement reform i could, even though i promised people of south carolina i would not, i would vote for a tax increase to get this fundamental entitlement reform. i said, have you ever met a democrat willing to do that? i said, senator, you are offering a tax increase and return for a golden unicorn that the not exist and i did not stay up late at night because he said, look, anything that is not entitlement reform baked in the cake is phony. he is very dismissive of other people who lust after promises of tax cuts. he is going to be having a much tougher deal. so, i don't think that -- no, the commitment by the modern republican party house and senate, governors, is to reduce spending and not to raise taxes. although one can get a congressman or senator talk about a hypothetical and get in trouble. i usually call them after it has been in the paper and say, did you mean to endorse that? i have had discussions with corker and so as well. i do not think the d's will offer anything on spending that we even -- that would even tempt som
. on the list this morning senators john mccain, lindsey graham and callie ayat. that will start at 9:30 this morning. live to the senate floor. the presiding officer: the senate will come to order. the chaplain, dr. barry black, will lead the senate in prayer. the chaplain: let us pray. eternal god, the source of our joy, thank you for this opportunity to call on your name. you have sustained this nation through the seasons of its existence, and we're depending on you, lord, to guard our future with your might. as our senators seek to do the work of freedom, deepen their love for those on life's margins. give our law marks this day the gift of your spirit as they give thanks to you in all things. lord, we believe that you will lead us through all our tomorrows, as you have led us through our yesterdays. we pray in your merciful name. amen. the presiding officer: please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and jus
the weekend, i'll close with this, on a television show with senator lindsey graham of south carolina, who said publicly regardless of this grover norquist pledge, my pledge is -- i'm from pra phrasing, my pledge is to the people of america. we need more on both sides of the aisle to step up in that spirit to avoid this fiscal cliff. we can. with the president's leadership and the cooperation of the speaker we can get it done. for ten days, not much has happened. there's been a big thanksgiving break, a lieutenant of turkey and stuffing, now let's get back to business. we're back in session. roll up our sleeves, get it done. we can address this fiscal cliff and set up a plan with the president that is reasonable. weernd to do that on a bipartisan basis. and -- we need to do that on a bipartisan basis. i yield the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator would hold. under the previous order, the leadership time is reserved and under the previous order, senators are permitted to speak for up to ten minutes each. for the information of the senate, the pending busine
mccain, lindsey graham, and others on their meeting with you in ambassadors on the libyan attack that killed four americans. also dick durbin on fiscal cliff negotiations. political will host a discussion of the fiscal cliff with grow from norquist on c- span to add it o'clock a.m. eastern. i not o'clock a.m. eastern, tom foley and others look at lessons from the 1990 budget deal. the president of amtrak and a representative of the united transportation unit will speak about the operations aboutamtrak. >> washington went to harvard law school. at the urging of one of his brothers, he went to illinois. he of thrived after about eight months' journey by ship, state ge coach into a mining town. he boarded himself in a log cabin. he established a law practice. he worked his way up. he became a successful lawyer and got involved politically. he ran for congress and served eight terms. he befriended abraham lincoln from illinois and ulysses s. grant. as they were on the rise, washbourne was a close confidant during the civil war. after grant was elected president, he appointed washbour
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